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As the 2023 Rugby World Cup kicks off we revisit a conversation with Garin Jenkins recorded in 2016. Garin is a former Welsh rugby union player capped 58 times by his country. He played in three World Cups and multiple Five and Six Nations tournaments. In conversation with Graham Daniels, he tells us about his battle with misdirected passion and aggression on the rugby field and how his growing faith remained steady as he endured massive ups and downs both on the pitch and off it.

00:00 Introduction
01:54 How Garin found out he'd won his first international cap
03:30 Making it to the international stage but feeling lost
04:50 Misdirected passion on the field and the battle for discipline
07:36 Garin's challenging upbringing and first steps of faith in God
09:24 A family disaster at a huge match against Cardiff
13:07 What it's like to realise you're playing at the top-level of sport
16:27 Reflections from Graham Daniels on the interview.